I did say to you it gets worse. Here’s why. It’s the type of people involved, right at the mania phase of the current cycle too. I mentioned Lesley Goldwasser from GreensLedge above. She has attended the last 10 Vegas events. Previously, she was working at Bear Stearns in 2008 when it nearly collapsed and was sold to JPMorgan.
“I lost my firm, my job,” she said. “A lot of people blamed us.” Pray, do tell?!
Goldwasser and GreensLedge, which she joined in 2013, advise and arrange structured-credit deals. “It’s like Old Home Day,” she said about the conference. “I walk down the corridors, and bump into all of these people. Old friends.”
Friends, need I remind you, who brought the financial world to its knees. Who ruined millions of people’s retirement plans. Maybe even your own?
But then add to this cohort of former criminals’ debt specialists a new wave of young and up-and-coming fund managers working for the hottest names in the industry, such as Ares Management.
Felix Zhang, 35, who was a sophomore at Harvard in 2008, is the senior partner Ares sent with a 20-person team to the conference. Formerly an investment banker at Goldman Sachs, Zhang joined Ares in 2015 to help boost its private debt business. He was part of an exodus of investment bankers from that industry, chased out by tighter regulations.
Are you seeing how this is all adding up now?
Then there is 34-year-old Jason Pan, an analyst at PGIM, the investment arm of Prudential Financial, who came to the Aria to talk on a panel about data-center asset-backed securities. It was so popular that people had to sit on the floor.
Data-center bonds are backed by lease payments from companies that rent out computing capacity. It is estimated to cost about $3 trillion to build all the centers needed in the next five years, according to BlackRock. That prospect had many at the conference giddy with excitement.
“The growth feels exponential right now,” said Pan, a 34-year-old former actuary and recreational rock climber. Rock climber – of course.
I ask you to look at the descriptive terms used here. Like the good old days are here again. Nothing but blue skies await us. These people are financializing every single aspect of the US economy. And, recall, they are still buying residential and commercial property loans as well.
By 2022, private fund managers held over $1.5 trillion dollars of investors’ capital that was sitting idle. To charge fees on the capital, the fund managers needed to put it to work.
This has led to a flood of deals. Private equity firm KKR bought $7.2 billion of loans backed by recreational vehicles from the Bank of Montreal in December after agreeing in June to purchase from PayPal up to $44 billion of existing and future buy-now-pay-later loans.
Last month, Blackstone purchased $1.1 billion of credit card debt from the U.S. unit of Barclays.
Ares Management bought a $3.5 billion package of specialty loans from PacWest last summer before the ailing bank got sold.
Estimates of size of the total asset-based finance industry range from $25 trillion to $40 trillion. Private-credit executives say they ultimately hope to capture about one-quarter of that.
That could be up to TEN trillion dollars. The numbers are staggering.
Certainly, shareholders must be over the moon with the recent stock price movement throughout 2024.